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Sue Burke
Comments on friends-locked entries cannot be cross-posted to Facebook 
4th-Sep-2010 04:36 pm
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I have done some experimenting with this new option to post LiveJournal comments on Facebook. What I have learned may calm some troubled souls.

In order to cross-post a comment on Facebook, I have to log in as a Facebook user, not as a LiveJournal user.

While logged in via Facebook, I tried to comment on a friend's friend-locked post. I could not post my comment on LiveJournal, much less on Facebook:



So it would seem your friends-locked posts are safe from the evil Facebook. Pass it on. Please!

By the way, this is what a cross-posted comment looks like over on Facebook. I'm still not quite sure what this cross-posting is good for, but I'm not afraid of it.




Please feel free to link to this post, pass the information on, repost it, try the experiment yourself and report back, comment on here and at Facebook, or whatever.

— Sue Burke

Comments 
4th-Sep-2010 03:55 pm (UTC)
Have you experimented with this after linking facebook and livejournal accounts via the livejournal account settings? I think comments, but not the original locked post, will then go to Facebook from a livejournal account.
4th-Sep-2010 04:22 pm (UTC)
I am totally linked.

But if I try to comment on a locked entry under the Facebook account, I can't. And as you can see, I can comment on this public entry.

I think this makes sense. LiveJournal knows me as one user, and Facebook is a different user. They can be linked but they are not the same.
4th-Sep-2010 04:05 pm (UTC)
I am typically logged in to both facebook and LJ when on the computer, not one or the othet.
4th-Sep-2010 04:23 pm (UTC)
Me, too, but to do this Facebook commenting on LiveJournal, I must use the Facebook log-in. Now I'll have to log out and log back in as me (Mount Oregano) to post as my LiveJournal persona.
4th-Sep-2010 04:26 pm (UTC)
Kind of a pain in the butt, to tell you the truth.

On LiveJournal, I can be my Facebook identity or my LiveJournal identity, but not both at the same time.
4th-Sep-2010 04:33 pm (UTC)
And, if I click the "Repost to Facebook" setting while I'm Mount Oregano, the comment does NOT repost to Facebook. I'd have to sign in as my Facebook identity to do that.
4th-Sep-2010 04:43 pm (UTC)
If so, that's even more messed up. You let the strangers decide to cross-post, but not the locals?

Didn't LJ beta-test this thingy?
4th-Sep-2010 06:08 pm (UTC)
I think it's logical, and in fact it works like other blogs and sites on the web.

I can post on a LiveJournal entry under several identities:

Anonymous (though you can block this, or get their IP address)
LiveJournal logged-in user
Facebook user
Open ID

Of those four, only the Facebook allows cross-posting, and then only for public posts.

If you're logged in as a LiveJournal user, you can comment on locked entries, but for any kind of entry, LiveJournal doesn't allow cross-posting of comments. (Just as well in my opinion.)

Facebook allows you to cross-post your comments on a variety of sites to your Facebook page -- Huffington Post, for example. If you leave a comment on an article there, you can cross-post that comment on Facebook. That's one of the features of using Facebook. It lets you share everything! (Okay, maybe that's another way to be annoying on Facebook, but Facebook's management is sure you're overjoyed to overshare.)

And Facebook's not the only one. You can also cross-post your comments on some sites, like Huffington Post, to your account on Blogger, Titter, Tumblr, WordPress, and TypePad.

So this isn't messed-up, I think. This is the way the Internet works nowadays. Very social.

Very very social.

I think we still need to discover the polite behaviors and social conventions to handle all this sharing. It's possible to communicate too much. But what we do in public has always been subject to public notice and comment. Nothing has changed except that we can all do it immensely more than ever, and this new superpower calls for responsibility and common sense. Those two qualities have always been in short supply.
5th-Sep-2010 01:45 am (UTC)
No one goes to the Huffington Post without knowing they are in a public place. And similarly, Facebook is big on sharing, and barely gives lip service to privacy. The Huffington Post is like a town square; Facebook is all one big front yard, in the middle of the busiest town possible. And there's nothing wrong with that--town squares are great for some things.

But Live Journal lets you have not only a metaphorical front yard, but also a living room and a private bedroom. A lot of people have made no bones about preferring LJ to Facebook because LJ gives them a reasonable expectation of control over who sees their words. So I do think it is different for LJ to do this cross-posting thing--they've marketed themselves as a place where you CAN have privacy, if you want.

By the way, I think it's great that people can sign in with their FB id to comment on open posts. And, for that matter, I think people who are signed in to both FB and LJ on their computer should be able to cross-post comments made in open posts, without having to specially sign in to LJ as their FB self.

But people should not be able to even see locked posts if they're only logged in via their FB id. And others on my friends' list stated that yesterday they did manage to cross-post comments made in a locked post (one that was locked specifically to allow that experiment) to Facebook. So if, today, you cannot do so, I suspect that your inability to do so today is a sign that the LJ people are already working on fixing the issue.

Which is a good thing!
4th-Sep-2010 08:00 pm (UTC)
I also found when I set up my Dreamwidth account that if I want to cross-post entries automatically between Dreamwidth and Livejournal I have to do it from the Dreamwidth end because "LJ doesn't have cross-posting capabilities" (that from the DW help desk).
4th-Sep-2010 10:46 pm (UTC)
See Cleolinda's experiment on this very same thing. If you have your LJ and FB associated, then you can, in fact, cross-post a comment from a locked entry using the "Repost to" box at the bottom of the comment screen.
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